I started surfing when I was thirteen. The context that this has on me is sort of inseparable. You periodically prepare your board, or glaze it. And I remember in the bottom of the Dixie cup, this clear material. I was doing a project and I thought, I bet this could probably be done in polyester, resin. So I started casting it into little boxes. I made these little rooms, places to go. The idea was that the surface had to be absolute without a mark on it so that it would not impede your going into.